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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.15 11:28:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:I like the Mittani more with every post to this thread. Someday I hope I can pull off a troll that results in a 5000+ tearfest.
You mean like the 5000+ goon tears that were shed after his ban?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.15 22:36:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:That's funny. I could have sworn that he was banned because of in-game politics. If it had been anybody else this whole thread probably would never have happened.
Mocking and provoking a player into contemplating suicide is far beyond in-game politics.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.18 11:33:00 -
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T-B0NE wrote:Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote:Yeah ppl totally just PLAY sociopaths and arent them IRL When I come home from a hard day of putting up with others people's crap, and having to do it with a smile on my face, I'm glad their is a game where I can sit back and make someone else's life hell for once. I don't think that makes me a sociopath, if anything I believe having this outlet to vent in such a manner makes me a more well adjusted individual. Some people drink, I play EVE (and drink)
Just FYI, making "someone else's life hell" for your own gratification is the very definition of sadism. That you get this gratification by using this game as a tool to "vent" does not invalidate that tag.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.19 11:25:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Yeah, that's why he apologised.
He apologized for being drunk at the time and not "remembering" what he said.
His "apology" is bullshit. Was he drunk when he prepared that presentation? Was he drunk when he came up with the idea to mock a player contemplating suicide during a live event and in front of an audience? Was he drunk when he savored and relished on the victim's email? Was he drunk when he decided to keep this email as a prize for his accomplishments?
Because unless you can claim that he's been drunk this whole time and not knowing what he has done, his apology is nothing more than a politician's apology for getting caught. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.19 21:37:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:I really hope you never do something wrong and have to fake an apology for it.
Fixed. And agreed. I hope so too.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.20 01:39:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Fixing something means it was broken. What I wrote was not broken. You are welcome to say something else if that is what you feel, but please do not change something I wrote into something different. That is fundamentally dishonest as you are attributing a statement to me that I did not make.
Hi Ai Shun o/ :)
Let us start with the basics. When someone writes something along the lines of "fixed your post for ya" it is usually with a tongue-in-cheek tone. You see, you wrote that you hope I never have to apologize for making a mistake. And the whole point of my post seemed to have escaped you. As a response I wrote (again, with a tongue-in-cheek tone) that mitten's apology was not sincere. This "fundamental dishonesty" you speak of, well, is fundamentally non-existent. If you still don't understand the concept feel free to let me know and I'll make another attempt at explaining it for you :).
Now on to the rest:
Ai Shun wrote:That said, who are you to judge if a person feels remorse or not? Would you want people to treat you as if your apology is fake if you make one?
I would highly recommend you read The Mittani's apology. You'll take quick notice that his apology, and he makes no excuse about it, is for making some comments while heavily intoxicated, to the point of not remembering what he said. I had asked before some questions that you either seemed to have ignored or overlooked so I will simply ask again:
MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Was he drunk when he prepared that presentation? Was he drunk when he came up with the idea to mock a player contemplating suicide during a live event and in front of an audience? Was he drunk when he savored and relished on the victim's email? Was he drunk when he decided to keep this email as a prize for his accomplishments?
I would love to hear your input.
Quote:That is a high moral ground you are putting yourself on. I sincerely hope you are as perfect as you imply you are. Then and again, given that you misrepresent what I said probably not 
See, the thing is you don't need to be high on any moral ground to realize that making fun of a depressed human being contemplating suicide is inherently wrong. And again, his apology was for a drunken mistake. Even though he claims not to use inebreation as an excuse for his behavior, that is exactly what he did. You don't have to be a genius to realize that his apology does not extend to all events leading up to his intoxicated presentation on that day, but rather just the presentation of that day. Blurring real life with game obviously isn't an issue to him (and goons in general).
Feel free to defend him, his apology, and his actions to the bitter end. But do yourself a favor and stop spinning this like he's the victim in all this. Goons, company, and friends were sold even before all this happened, no matter what writings are on the wall. Their tears have already been shed and Alex's revenge is already brewing. So no one's being fooled. Just an advice. |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.20 02:09:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Thomas Orca wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Was he drunk when he prepared that presentation? Was he drunk when he came up with the idea to mock a player contemplating suicide during a live event and in front of an audience? Was he drunk when he savored and relished on the victim's email? Was he drunk when he decided to keep this email as a prize for his accomplishments? I would love to hear your input. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28575Read it. Learn where the line is. In other words, you rather create an imaginary fetch than answer these questions. I've read CCP's response on the matter (including that thread you linked above). And my questions are not directed at CCP. But I can see why you'd try and divert the issue. Luckily, this part "Was he drunk when he prepared that presentation?", this part "Was he drunk when he came up with the idea to mock a player contemplating suicide during a live event and in front of an audience?", this part "Was he drunk when he savored and relished on the victim's email?", and this part "Was he drunk when he decided to keep this email as a prize for his accomplishments?" are completely irrelevant to why he apologized. Basically what I'm saying is that your whole post there is completely irrelevant to ANYTHING in this thread.
Of course they're irrelevant. They necessarily would need to be in order to consider his "apology" sincere  .
"If you blot out the inconsistencies it makes perfect sense!"
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
272
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Posted - 2012.04.20 02:25:00 -
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Lapine Davion wrote:Well, considering his apology was all about the drunken joke made during the Q&A, and not his presentation, which deserves it's own apology for being terribly presented, yeah, you're irrelevant.
Considering he claims to be nothing like "The Mittani", being able to differentiate between real life and game, and apologizing for a "drunken joke" even though his actions extended days (weeks even) before this event these questions are quite relevant.
They highlight his hypocrisy and inconsistency. So I can definitely see why you would like for them to be irrelevant.
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